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ytownbobcat
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  Message Not Read  Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/26/2017 12:14:11 PM 
I don't have a valid Messenger account. I only do the 6 month August to February subscription. Anyone see this "scrimmage"?

Anyone have anything to report? No Post reporting as far as I can see.

Perhaps we need a Russian hacker or Wiki Leaks to follow our team in the spring and give us the secrets that we will otherwise never know.
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allen
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/26/2017 12:48:43 PM 
It's not Russia, it is probably some 400 pound person living in his mother's basement. Wouldn't it be great if we got along with Putin and let him live in the White House?

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes
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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/26/2017 2:50:47 PM 
While some of us are wondering about the ongoing QB battle at Ohio, we can occupy ourselves by reading up on the QB battle at NIU instead:
http://www.huskiewire.com/articles/2017/03/25/37e105213a8...

It's an interesting story about losing expected starters last year due to injuries, and a freshman who wasn't expected to play much last year getting getting called on, and starting games later in the year, and also talks about a highly touted new player who came in early to make it to Spring practice. Too bad Ohio doesn't have any similarly news worthy story.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

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Deciduous Forest Cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/26/2017 8:28:48 PM 
the post article made it seem like there was no qb battle and rourke was there for window dressing. I find that very hard to believe.
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Bobcatzblitz
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/27/2017 9:05:50 AM 
There is no QB battle at all. It is extremely difficult for anyone much less a QB to come into a FBS program and be ready to play. Maxwell is the man by far and its not even questionable.
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allen
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/27/2017 10:17:43 AM 
It would be sick if Q Max was just handed the position. I understand him being first on the depth chart, but he has done nothing to prove that he is the guy. When guys don't play at an All-MAC level, you have to open up the competition. Hagan would not have been a freshman all-American if not for injuries, because of our start forever policy, I thought we abandoned that. I think Maxwell can start, but he needs to compete. One week of spring ball is not a good sufficient evaluation period.

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes
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Robert Fox
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/27/2017 10:21:59 AM 
Where do you come up with this stuff? You feel comfortable speculating on things and then throwing it out there as if it's fact?
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allen
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/27/2017 10:34:52 AM 
Is it not the end of the first week of spring ball? I am speaking to what bobcatblitz just posted. Coming out of fall camp last year Hagan was a second string alterate. AJ is back to being number one on the depth chart. We have to have a real competition and play the the best players. If Maxwell fends off the competition, than he should start, but we should not just start him for the next three years because we are comfortable with him. You have to go outside of your comfort zon, you have to step out on faith.

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes
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Robert Fox
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/27/2017 11:03:37 AM 
You said the same thing about AJ Oullette vs Irons. You were absolutely sure Oullette was starting over Irons due to some kind of favoritism. Some people who were in the know posted that Irons wasn't quite ready, but you would have none of it, blaming the coaches for naming "forever starters."

Then Oullette got injured and Irons stepped in. Guess what? He wasn't quite ready. Here we are a year or so later, and you're making the same claim again only this time about the QBs.
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allen
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   Posted: 3/27/2017 11:29:25 AM 
He had the same rushing AVERAGE as Oulette and the the OL was terrible and he was injured. You have to be real. AJ is a good back, hopefully he can get back to being 100%, he should not start forever. Let the players compete and stop appeasing the medi's, WMU's Franklin was all MAC and lost his position because WMU was trying to win with the best players. I am sure people were coming up to the WMU coaches offering car washes and saying they had relatives from Franklin's town, some probably identified deeply with Franklin, but the coaches let other running backs compete, they were able to cast down the car washes. We have to do the same thing.

Last Edited: 3/27/2017 11:47:07 AM by allen

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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/27/2017 12:59:48 PM 
Bobcatzblitz wrote:
There is no QB battle at all. It is extremely difficult for anyone much less a QB to come into a FBS program and be ready to play. Maxwell is the man by far and its not even questionable.

I'll take this as the first eye witness report on the status of the various QBs. Thanks. Maxwell was good at times last year, but had a lot of room to improve, and has a lot of upside. He seems smart, and very, very hard working, and I've stated previously that I think he will improve tremendously from his first year to his second. In particular, I expect that the game will slow down for him.

Rourke also seems to have a lot of ability, and also has a lot of upside. He's coming into a new system, and also adapting to a new school, so he starts out way behind. It's not surprising in the least that at this point Maxwell is way ahead. If Rourke has the kind of talent that I think he has, he'll close the gap some during the Spring, and then, IF there will be a quarterback battle, it will be staged next fall, perhaps later than that.

And then, of course, there is the question whether Zaire is QB #6. If he is, and he does show up, there is no doubt he has ability, but, he still has to learn the playbook, and the players. It is not a given that he can beat out either Rourke or Maxwell.

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
the post article made it seem like there was no qb battle and rourke was there for window dressing. I find that very hard to believe.

I didn't see anything in the Post about quarterbacks. Two-ply toilet paper is a more immediate concern.

Last Edited: 3/27/2017 1:04:30 PM by L.C.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/27/2017 1:31:34 PM 
L.C. wrote:
I didn't see anything in the Post about quarterbacks. Two-ply toilet paper is a more immediate concern.


As my former roommate once put it, "There is always room in the budget for quality toilet paper."
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Deciduous Forest Cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/27/2017 6:03:40 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Bobcatzblitz wrote:
There is no QB battle at all. It is extremely difficult for anyone much less a QB to come into a FBS program and be ready to play. Maxwell is the man by far and its not even questionable.

I'll take this as the first eye witness report on the status of the various QBs. Thanks. Maxwell was good at times last year, but had a lot of room to improve, and has a lot of upside. He seems smart, and very, very hard working, and I've stated previously that I think he will improve tremendously from his first year to his second. In particular, I expect that the game will slow down for him.

Rourke also seems to have a lot of ability, and also has a lot of upside. He's coming into a new system, and also adapting to a new school, so he starts out way behind. It's not surprising in the least that at this point Maxwell is way ahead. If Rourke has the kind of talent that I think he has, he'll close the gap some during the Spring, and then, IF there will be a quarterback battle, it will be staged next fall, perhaps later than that.

And then, of course, there is the question whether Zaire is QB #6. If he is, and he does show up, there is no doubt he has ability, but, he still has to learn the playbook, and the players. It is not a given that he can beat out either Rourke or Maxwell.

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
the post article made it seem like there was no qb battle and rourke was there for window dressing. I find that very hard to believe.

I didn't see anything in the Post about quarterbacks. Two-ply toilet paper is a more immediate concern.


it was this one from early last week... http://www.thepostathens.com/article/2017/03/ohio-bobcats...
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Bobcatzblitz
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/29/2017 4:18:13 PM 
Robert Fox are you really that dense to think ANY QB that has never played a down of D1 FBS football will actually threaten Q Maxwell? Stop smoking the funny stuff!
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Bobcatzblitz
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/29/2017 4:19:43 PM 
It is Q Maxwell team. There are no challengers. He is looking good and unlike the other QBs he looks like he has played before
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allen
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/29/2017 4:33:12 PM 
Bobcatzblitz wrote:
Robert Fox are you really that dense to think ANY QB that has never played a down of D1 FBS football will actually threaten Q Maxwell? Stop smoking the funny stuff!


Q Maxwell averaged one hundred yards per game passing in high school, he was somewhat erratic last year, lets not allow ourselves to believe that he can't be challenged. You can't teach accuracy, ask Kyle Boller. May Maxwell improves and holds down the fort; however, he has not earned start forever status. Rourke or Keszei could challenge and Zaire would probably win the competition. Maxwell is a great athlete, who needs to improve his accuracy and calm his nerves, the coaches need to be willing to make a change if he doesn't.

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes
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Robert Fox
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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 3/29/2017 4:47:56 PM 
Bobcatzblitz wrote:
Robert Fox are you really that dense to think ANY QB that has never played a down of D1 FBS football will actually threaten Q Maxwell? Stop smoking the funny stuff!


I think you're talking to Allen, not me. Not sure how I ever made a claim like that.
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L.C.
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   Posted: 3/29/2017 8:17:20 PM 
He could also be talking to me, since I said that Rourke could improve a lot between now and this fall, as he gets used to the system, and could be a challenger in Fall camp, or later.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Spring Practice Scrimmage
   Posted: 4/7/2017 1:10:56 PM 
On Ohiobobcats.com the position spotlight is on O-line. Marshall Davis and Kyle Kuhar switching positions is why we need an updated roster available. Assuming they are handing them out tomorrow.
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   Posted: 4/7/2017 4:06:00 PM 
Valley Cat wrote:
On Ohiobobcats.com the position spotlight is on O-line. Marshall Davis and Kyle Kuhar switching positions is why we need an updated roster available. Assuming they are handing them out tomorrow.


Agreed. However, not holding my breath, Mr. Trotter has been DL on the roster since last fall without correction.

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/04061...

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ohio-m-foo...



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